Reefton Jack

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  Giving Credit Where It's Due To Witnesses

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my mom has had to go to a number of doctor's visits that have at times kept her waiting for 4 hours.

  many witnesses have responded to her needs by calling her and helping her out.

  i've thanked a few who have greatly assisted her.

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  Reefton Jack

  The trouble is, though, the JWs seem to think that they have the monopoly on this sort of thing
  (just as they seem to think that all other religions have the monopoly on failing to practice what they preach!)
  
  As Blondie pointed out, individuals such as those mentioned would have probably done the same even if they were'nt JWs.
  
  
  Jack.
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  Even if its not the truth its still the best way of life!

  by mtsgrad in

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  complete the following:.

  even if its not the truth...... .

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  Reefton Jack

  Even if it's not the truth, "Jehovah's Organization" is a safe place to be.
  
  (Until there is a medical emergency, and you need a blood transfusion)
  
  
  Jack.
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  #1 reason they go in service...be honest!..........

  by oompa in

  1. watchtower
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  ya a beautiful fall day here....trees ablaze with color...and a slight drizzle...me sippin yummy coffee...wife crammin her bookstudy book, then off to meeting and service........god she dresses up a lot!....i fogot how much i did that.....i have about $2000,00 of suits getting dusty in my closet if anybody needs a 42 long btw......so i just asked myself and sooo wanted to ask my wife "why are you really going out in service today?

  ".......and there are many automatic jw answers:.

  1. jesus said we must go and make disciples, and it is the loving thing to do..........2. because the time is short and have to save as many as possible......3. because we love our neighbors ( but i cant frikin have them over for a grillout!).........

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  Reefton Jack

  Longhairgal is onto it.
  In the JW world, the sole indicator of a person's level of spirituality is the number in that column marked "Hours" on the Monthly Report slip.
  
  Jack.
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  Did the WTS with all it's lies take away your interest in the Bible?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  still interested .

  still read .

  still study .

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  Reefton Jack

  Much as I tried, I could never at any time understand what all the fuss about the bible was about.
  Certainly, after the bad experience of the Watchtower Madness, I would describe myself as being "Religioned Out."
  However, nothing I have seen in other religions before, during and after my time with the JWs has led me to change my mind about that.
  
  I did used to take the matter seriously, and really wanted it to be "The Truth."
  At one point, I thought that it would all make perfect sense if only a person read the bible intensely.
  (That was easy to do while living by yourself in an 8 ft x 10 ft hut in a construction camp).
  
  But, after having read the bible from cover to cover (like most JWs don't do), I cannot say that I felt in any way enlightened by it.
  
  I often compare myself with friends I had before I became a JW. They do not appear to be in any way disadvantaged for having never opened a bible - and I cannot see any advantage that I gained from having read the thing constantly for so many years.
  
  
  
  
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  Do you want to know the truth? WT's new campain...

  by justhuman in

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  has anyone see the new wt's campain

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  Reefton Jack

  I found one such leaflet jammed under my door when I got home this evening.
  Although I didn't waste much time over the thing, it seemed to fit in the usual
  "Sierra Squared, Delta Squared" category:
  - so it got consigned to the good old "Round File."
  
  
  Jack.
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  Is it the JW's or the God of the bible you no longer believe?

  by reniaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a question for the ex-jw's on this forum after months of reading the forum..... many say how good it is to be free of the oppressiveness of the jw's that they can now enjoy the freedom to... have sex, celebrate christmas, gamble, embrace politics etc.

  there are still biblical scriptures and principles in place that if you still followed the bible would mean you avoid these things and yet these are now embraced as one of the perks of no longer being a jw so in my confusion i ask.... if these are what you want, isn't it more correct to say you no longer follow the bible as apposed to just the jw's?.

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  Reefton Jack

  Is it the JWs, or is it the god of the bible I no longer believe in?
  - like, are these two the only possible alternatives?
  
  From my experience with the lot of them (i.e. including JWs - but not just limited to them), I have got absolutely no use for religion in any of its forms.
  
  
  Jack.
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  How old were you?

  by DJK in

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  when you first started to learn about the bible, god and jesus?

  preschool or school age?.

  who were you learning from?

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  Reefton Jack

  I have always been an avid reader - in this case, rather unfortunately.
  When I was 11 years old, my JW grandmother gave the family a gift subscription for the Watchtower and Awake.
  These were primarily intended for her son (i.e. my father), but I was the one who read the things.
  
  By the time I was first contacted by the "brothers" three years later, I was already well and truly taken in by the spiel.
  
  
  Jack.
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  What is Destructive Mind Control ? Points from "Releasing the Bonds "

  by flipper in

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  2. friends

  in getting out of the jehovah's witnesses cult - are we all aware of what was totally involved in the mind control they used ?

  in steve hassan's " releasing the bonds " he gets into some variables of mind control in detail.

  i thought you would enjoy a few of these main points.

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  Reefton Jack

  Further to Warlock's remarks about mind control, "Cults" are not limited to just religion:
  
  - some of the more extreme political groups show all the signs of cult behaviour,too.
  
  Allied prisoners of war taken in Korea were subjected to mind control - including the destruction of the individual's identity, and its replacement with one of the cult's (in this case, Communism)choosing.
  
  
  
  
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  Anyone know Hands Hubler the D.O Missionary {a.k.a The Terminator}

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hands hubler was the rudest most arrogant man "jehovah" ever made.

  he was famous for kicking out sisters with crying babies during his talks.

  he went to a bible study as a sister asked him to come along, he saw the christmas decorations were up so he excused them and said they would not be coming back, "terminating" the sisters study, no discussion, no nothing.

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  Reefton Jack

  I remember him all-right!
  
  They sent him our way as District Overseer, to give us all a bit of a shake up around 25 years ago.
  He gave a Special Talk at our hall, following the Circuit Assembly late in 1983.
  I have known others who at least matched him for arrogance:
  - but there was definitely something strange there, just the same!
  
  Hans Hubler was originally from Switzerland.
  Shortly after his appointment as D.O. in New Zealand, he travelled to French Polynesia on a short-term visit
  (I think it was to attend the dedication of the WT Branch Facilities in Tahiti).
  While there, he contracted dengue fever - which, typically, requires a long convalescent period to recover from.
  We never heard anymore about him after that.
  
  
  
  
  
  PS: As for a*s^-kicking Circuit Overseers, do any of you in Australia remember "Cyclone Rex" Mannering?
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  What Is Your Present Status In The Organization?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  are you disfellowshipped?

  disassociated?

  a fader?

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  Reefton Jack

  Well and truly "sent to Coventry", as the saying goes.
  
  Jack